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Post by dragondeathlord on Jul 16, 2010 14:11:33 GMT -5
Yes I understand people hate me for this speculation but some how I keep suspecting Danaus will Die this Great hero and that's really his goal to die a martyred saving his soul . And speculating on the runner ups could be fun.
So lets look at the alternatives to Danaus for Mira. Yes I included Cynnia she clearly worships the Ground Mira Walks on ,Literally and it has not been established if Mira Bi or not. I be shocked if she get's any votes but I put it out there. But in most Vampire storys Vampire are become flexible with age as feeding is a form of sex for them not just eating. Mira has stated that is the case for her when starved. Though she clearly prefers men.
I will add some one, if I missed some one. I got room for one more Love interest on the list.
Personally I voting Rowe. We do not know if he was really responsible for Mira torcher and he proved to be loyal beyond all reason to wife Aurora who is a Scum.
So I could see Rowe as Mira hero instead of Aurora in say 5 or so books, not now of course. He is a butcher of humans and would have a lot to make up for. And Mira would have to get over her hatred of the Naturi. But there both freaks to the people there absolutely loyal to. And absolutely loyal is damed hard to come by. And grossly under rated.
Hmm not letting me edit the poll part of the post so people we will just have to post if you like.
Stefan or Knox
Sorry Jocelynn I tried. It will not let me Modify the questions. If you can as Moderator feel free.
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Post by Jocelynn Drake on Jul 16, 2010 18:00:33 GMT -5
OOOOOh! I like this one!! Yes, I know the outcome. Hell, I've already finished writing book 6, but I would love to see your speculation on this! Please vote. I will even vote when there's a chance of my vote getting lost in the crowd. And my vote would be regarded as pure speculation just like everyone else, assuming IF Mira doesn't end up with Danaus, then this is who I think or want her to end up with.
Two other names that you might want to add in are Knox and Stefan.
thanks for this great idea!!
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Post by mrsj on Jul 16, 2010 21:49:32 GMT -5
hahahaha.. that's easy for me BUT I hope it will never come to that!! Please don't break my heart!! >_<
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Post by Vikki on Jul 16, 2010 22:10:15 GMT -5
Me personally I like the idea of a Mira, Stephan pairing. I mean they already own a part of each other's soul.
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Post by dragondeathlord on Jul 17, 2010 11:46:20 GMT -5
Rowe been faithful to a Woman for centuries since the 1500s hundreds and sacrificed his Eye and his Honor for the sake of his lost love by using Blood Magic and was even by his people standards disfigured. And his wife acted like he was three day old meat loaf becouse he was not as pretty as she last saw him.
He cares for others of his people and has a sense of honor.
So much so that it makes me think that he would not torcher a prisoner.
Sacrifice them to free his people in a magic spell that in his mind will cost the life of ever living thing on earth if not done absolutely. But torcher Mira for days (maybe even raped her,it's implied but never said one way or the other.) Sorry not buying it.Rowe seems to just have to much Honor makes me wonder if he even knew of all that was being done back then. I think there was a very good reason Mira did not remember him being there much. I think she was Aurora brother's prisoner and Rowe could not interfere much. Out ranked by a True Royal Prince. Hope I am right.
He might not always be nice but he is honorable even if he's ruthless but he has war to win.
And that kind of reminds me of Mira. Be Nice if he gets some one worth all that Honor. A true love . Aurora the elven skank shore dose not deserve it.
Stephan pairing might be cool I forgot about the soul share thing but do not know him well enough yet to know if I like him. There might or might not be a slime factor. Who ever Mira winds up with they got be Honorable.
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Post by darkdaysfan on Jul 17, 2010 13:29:18 GMT -5
Omg don't do that ! We finally got inside Danaus head please don't kill him off. He was meant for Mira. There is no one else that even comes close.
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Post by midnightprincess92 on Jul 17, 2010 14:27:16 GMT -5
Oh crap!! I have this feeling that Danaus is going to die!!! I have to agree with darkdaysfan!!! I hope we don't lose him!!!
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Post by Rainow on Jul 17, 2010 16:24:46 GMT -5
I don't really see Mira with anyone besides Danaus, but from the list I voted for Nicolai. He seems like a good guy (he tried to take the fall for his rotten sister, among other things) and as we just learned from the last book, he is Alpha material so he can stand up to Mira.
I hate to admit this, but I'm having trouble remembering who Stefan is. Is he the vamp who showed up at Machu Picchu? Speaking of Machu Picchu, it showed up in another series book I read recently and all I could think was, no, please, don't go there.
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Post by charislight on Jul 17, 2010 17:35:00 GMT -5
Me personally I like the idea of a Mira, Stephan pairing. I mean they already own a part of each other's soul. And this has been on my mind since I read Dawnbreaker. I have been waiting to see Stefan come back to the story and see the ramifications of the soul bond they now have; however, I think Mira seems to have more of a connection with Valerio whom she seems to be unable to shake off. I mean, she still wears his ring and he is gorgeous. And she seems to think that if he truly desired, he would be a great leader.
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Post by dragondeathlord on Jul 17, 2010 19:32:17 GMT -5
midnightprincess92 darkdaysfan , I agree it will be a shame to see him die but he got the whole DOOMED Hero thing going on and now that he knows he's not innately Damed to hell for his creator he's going to sees him self Damed for killing are those innocent Nightwalkers. I mean Danaus is this tragic cursed lone hero. He now been made to see Tristan did not deserve to die so he's going to start moaning about the innocent he's killed. So if he got fixed and stopped hating him self would there be anything underneath? Dose he Golf ? What Sci FI TV maybe like to surf?Listen to Rock? No all he got is his passion and self hate and his mission. In any real sense he not really a Real person (if get my meaning) All he has is the Mission and Mira took that from him. So He got this Self destructive martyrdom planned for 1800 years. Mira Goes clubs and on tour buses and owns a Big Screen TV. She more human and alive than Danaus and he admits it. Could she make him happy undoubtedly but he make her happy, long term like 2 years ? More importantly could he convince him self he could make her happy? No Way. Danaus has planned this noble death for 1800 years his martyrdom to save his soul and killing all the Vampire he could he just found out might send him to hell. He got started the count in his head of all the Nightwalkers who he knows did nothing of all Girls who begged and those he killed. So no he to much a Doomed man he got to make up for his sins and save the girl and the world. It's all in the Pray for Dawn so no, he planning to save his soul and die a hero not live forever with Mira. It makes it worse that he knows Mira more alive and Human than he is. He more in love with his pain and dieing than he is with Mira.The guy lives in Black and Whites and now he's wearing black and Mira got white hat. She killed him and dose not even know it. Sadly he dose. Mira is Good and therefor for 1800 years Danaus has been a murderer of what was basically innocent humans with a disease. He screwed and knows it. Danaus kills poeple who kill the innocent and that would be himself. So how could he make Mira happy? Just becouse he's a physical match and is powerful? Sorry love based on having a future and small like interests Danaus dose not have any.No hobbies,no interests, no Future, no Humanity. He lived his life as a curse and made it one. Danaus Deep down is pretty dull and knows it.
Rowe's got the same thing going on but a love could save him. He only recently was betrayed and now seeing his consort for what she is. He knows how to love faithfully one above all and is only divorced threw no fault of his own. Anyone betting on if Aurora was faithful?
A guy that would wait 600 years give up a eye for the person he swore to? Yep, Thats a guy who deserves some one like Mira. More to the point it's the kind of man that Mira earned one that will alway stand by the one he loves.
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Post by darkdaysfan on Jul 17, 2010 23:15:36 GMT -5
I’m sorry dragondeathlord but i have to say I disagree. I hope you don't get mad at me but I just feel like it’s because Danaus has suffered so long that he deserves to be happy with Mira. Mira is changing him and showing him a whole new different world and I believe she can bring out different sides of him. We read how Danaus first acted towards Mira and how cold and heartless and serious he seemed but as time passed he was able to tell jokes and be a different person around Mira. And in Pray for Dawn Mira seemed very happy with Danaus and in the past books she seems to really trust him and she even admits that. Also in PFD Danaus said “nothing sounded more appealing than trailing after Mira and Lily as they went on an intense shopping expedition, where we would encounter nothing more stressful than choosing between which pair of shoes to buy. No nature, no bori. No coven and no Ryan. We could even stop and have a cozy dinner together at a resturant. A normal night. A normal life”. And I can confidently say that a few months ago Danaus would have never said these things. Now this sounds like a man with a future. And Danaus has stood by Mira a number of times willing to die while protecting her. This may sound corny but Mira and Danaus seem like the light to each others darkness.
Rowe on the other hand hurt Mira badly. He is part of the race and probably one of the people that tortured Mira and tried to kill her number of times. I see no love there.
I have to agree with charislight that ever since Mira and Stefan have shared that soul bond I was worried about how their relationship would change but after reading the review about how he is “claiming to be a blood relation to Mira. He wants to use Mira for his own unknown reasons, and he’s holding a lot over Mira’s head if she doesn’t relent to his wishes.” So I’m relieved
I don’t think she would go with Nicolai. He seems like a good friend to have but that’s it.
As for Valerio I believe she did have some fun with him but he would use her and betray her to get what he wants in a heart beat
But I have to admit I agree with midnightprincess92 from what Jocelynn and everyone else has been posting I feel like Danaus is going to die (even though he shouldn’t). but another part of me feels like Jocelynn wouldn’t keep Danaus in three books (giving him major parts), give Danaus his own book in part four, and let the readers fall in love or get to like Danaus, and then kill him off. I’m sorry I just don’t feel like she would do that. He just has a lot of potential and it would be a shame and heartbreaking to see him go.
I’m sorry if I made some people mad or they don’t agree with me but this is just how I feel.
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Post by ggen on Jul 18, 2010 3:12:05 GMT -5
oh nO! i'm a solid Mira-Danaus FAN! please dont kill danaus.. if you wont give him to Mira.. can i have him? lol!
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Post by dragondeathlord on Jul 18, 2010 9:23:59 GMT -5
darkdaysfan I fully agree with you. It's Just I do not think Danaus believes it. And that who important. If he sees him self as being a loser who has done nothing but kill what now appears as Humans with a magical disease he will self destruct. Deserves not what I mean. It's also the fact that Danaus is a little like a facade we really see that in his POV.
If you see what I mean the Guy has Isolated him self from every one and had no human interaction or ties to the human world and was shocked that he found Mira had. Danaus dose not have this secret life and dislikes and likes he can share with Mira. He has nothing. He like this self involved Cult of one to witch he's his own master. He got no outside life.He regrets it now but there it is. He knows that,Mira dose not. Danaus is really cool becouse he's tragic becouse he is unhappy he interesting. But Unhappy is all he is. He made him self a Island. They say no man is a island but that what he did and stopped being human. Could Mira Fix him? Yes Absolutely. But dose he really want to be fixed? Dose he believe he can be? No. He been miserable for 1800 years and under all that he just miserable and under that there no real human being at all. That's how Danaus sees him self. And the problem is that it is basically true.
Rowe is at war for the survival of the planet earth. So is he nice ,No. But nether was Danaus. Did Rowe Torcher Mira ? No Idea he said he was involved but he's a bullsh*tter and all we know he did was try and trick her into thinking he was a prisoner. Maybe he was trying to trick as a alternative to torcher, maybe he tried to stop it.
Mira Hates the the Naturi becouse of what some did to her but that still racism and no different than Danaus hating all Vampire becouse most are killers. Mira already found out that not all Naturi are evil and want war but she wants to hate.
I can see her going threw the same Process as Danaus did with the Naturi. As at least part of her hate is self hate. She was tort to hate her self as a child as she was told she was a daughter of the devil and Now she see her self as Naturi. Oh she denies it but she not stupid. How powers are Naturi based and she has violet eyes. That kind of damming. She might not be Naturi but she got to suspect some kind of connection.
So she's ether going to learn to forgive the Naturi as a race or hate her self. As it is clear she got a link to them at the very least as strong as Danaus dose to nightwalkers.
But Mira has a life with out her hate,She dose not want or live to kill Naturi she just want her life back and to live in her city unbrothered.
But Danaus has no city nor life.
All he had was his mission and now his one hope of salvation just when up in smoke. Because Danaus never let himself have a life. Tragic Yes but now to add insult to injury Danaus watching Mira realized it was all self inflicted.
He waisted all those years. He could of studied medicine cured cancer, led armies stopped wars .Gained a great fortune fed all the worlds hungry instead he waisted 1800 years hating a Race that did him no personal harm. He wants to save his soul. But that all he got. Samurai wear tort to write poems music and dance some even learn sword making and paiting and medicine. That way they would be mentally balanced Worriers in stead of just self destructive killers. And I think Rowe has some of those skills.
But Danaus has none self admittedly he has none of those skills just his mission and his hope so now what dose he have now that has gone up in smoke. Danaus is not a Samurai he is a self destructive killer.
Could he change go to college get degree some ambitions and enrich his life and love Mira and have a happily ever after? YES!
YES but does he believe it, no. And sadly that all that matters. And what makes him neat cool doomed Hero.
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Post by mrsj on Jul 18, 2010 11:53:20 GMT -5
oh nO! i'm a solid Mira-Danaus FAN! please dont kill danaus.. if you wont give him to Mira.. can i have him? lol! Can we share? *lol* No.. scratch that.. May I have Valerio if he doesn't get to be with Mira? ;D
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Post by dragondeathlord on Jul 20, 2010 9:14:05 GMT -5
oh nO! i'm a solid Mira-Danaus FAN! please dont kill danaus.. if you wont give him to Mira.. can i have him? lol! Can we share? *lol* No.. scratch that.. May I have Valerio if he doesn't get to be with Mira? ;D I would at this point like to make a comment about Mira but my wife would kill me slowly so I won't.
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