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Post by charislight on Jul 12, 2010 19:52:00 GMT -5
I think we are going to get to meet this Liege very soon. At least I think it's about time for us to finally meet him. Exactly how powerful is he? What powers does he possess? And how does he feel about Mira? She practically saved his life? You would think after having his own coven plot his death he would finally make an appearance. Did he send LaVina after Mira? What does he know of her and the experiments Jabari, Tabor and Sadira conducted? I'm very curious to see where Jocelyn is going to take us in the next few books.
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Post by midnightprincess92 on Jul 12, 2010 21:11:29 GMT -5
You make a really good point?? I want to know exactly what you asked?? When will we ever meet him??
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Post by dragondeathlord on Jul 16, 2010 11:13:35 GMT -5
I think he really competent (The Ultimate Dark Secret Power) he's smart.
Mira and the others are scared crapless at the Great Awakening being sped up but if they don't do it there enemies will.The Naturi or The Hunters ( I think are Favorite Warlock behind both hunter groups) or just Sciences. The hunters want exposes them and No matter how the NightWalkers Debunk Viral Video on YouTube there going to be screwed if there a Night Walker presented in a Silver Blessed cage and a DNA Test that I think they would Flunk.
I think we might of already seen him but disguised, Who? I got no idea.
Well I got one small Guess.
But when he revealed I think it's going to be a shock you know a "OH My God! Moment." Example bitch slaps open handed Jabari and as a result decapitates Jabari, After Jabari Attacked him .
I also do not believe that he is safely sitting in his lair wear the(murderous) Coven think he's resting.With a sign taped to his forehead saying" I am stupid come kill me! I am a Sitting Duck Here. To stupid to live,Please just finish it!"
There plan would Never of worked the Naturi at best would killed a Body double.
Or he be dead long ago.Some Nightwalkers can teleport and and cloak there appearance.
So he could leave his lair any wear in the world say Austria and come up threw the basement in Venice. In his real form dropping his disguise or and shape-shift.
Gee dose Mira know anyone who turned out to have a unlimited teleport and turned out to be more powerful than she knew? And more importantly did not seemed to worried about pissing off the Fire Starter, treated her like a cute harmless kid he liked a lot. Even got her to beg him to help get the word out on the Naturi to other Nightwalkers. Even though He said he was so Afraid of the coven. Yet Kidnaps and whisks away a Pyrokinetic and the coven greatest prize and wants her to run off with him and dose so smiling with out so much as a drop of sweat or fear. Ah Hah.
(so powerful that he can carry others when he teleport,No on else can do that not even on the Coven)
Guess who I am thinking of. I think we seen Mira's Liege and so has Mira. She just dose not know it.
I mean If I was him I want to get to know her and lie about who and what I was to everyone. Because living in a Crypt waiting to get staked by a new Liege would get old real quick. Never mind a thousand years.
Secret ID's are not just for super heroes.
Valerio I think is really the disguised Liege Weak enough(An act ) to be left alone by elders.Yet powerful enough to be left alone by everyone else and all along the Liege of all Vampires Disguised.
Like those myths about The God Odin traveling the world as a harmless beggar. It's kind like the old joke about were dose a 800 pound Gorilla live any wear it wants. So wear do you think a teleporting Vampire God like being live who every one want to kill?
My guess not were anyone expects him to be and as some one else.
Valerio also got some kind of style that just screams" I got Power!"to me.
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I do not mean this would be a recent thing that he masquerading as Valerio. I am say this is His Clark Kent for the last thousand years or so. This way he could have a life make lovers and friends and even spy and be reasonably safe as nothing sent to kill Valerio could even put a dent in to the all powerful Liege.
But if people knew The Liege had a Girlfriend or was going to be at the Opera at a certain time what would happen?
There be a race to see who would bomb the place and who would Kidnap the Girl.
So Valerio goes to the Opera and has a girlfriend and no body much cares.
And the Coven Liege is in the basement. The Coven knows this becouse no body ever sees him there. And he told them repeatedly he be there,Between there murder plots to kill him.
See what mean?
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Post by Jocelynn Drake on Jul 16, 2010 17:55:19 GMT -5
Wow! That is a really excellent argument. Very logical and well-thought out. My hat is off to you for coming up with that train of thought, honestly. I really wish I had thought of that.  |
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Post by dragondeathlord on Jul 16, 2010 19:13:36 GMT -5
Ahhh crap foiled again. LOL
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Post by charislight on Jul 25, 2010 13:47:28 GMT -5
I think we might of already seen him but disguised, Who? I got no idea. Well I got one small Guess. Gee dose Mira know anyone who turned out to have a unlimited teleport and turned out to be more powerful than she knew? And more importantly did not seemed to worried about pissing off the Fire Starter, treated her like a cute harmless kid he liked a lot. Even got her to beg him to help get the word out on the Naturi to other Nightwalkers. Even though He said he was so Afraid of the coven. Yet Kidnaps and whisks away a Pyrokinetic and the coven greatest prize and wants her to run off with him and dose so smiling with out so much as a drop of sweat or fear. Ah Hah. (so powerful that he can carry others when he teleport,No on else can do that not even on the Coven) Guess who I am thinking of. I think we seen Mira's Liege and so has Mira. She just dose not know it. Valerio I think is really the disguised Liege Weak enough(An act ) to be left alone by elders.Yet powerful enough to be left alone by everyone else and all along the Liege of all Vampires Disguised. Dragondeathlord, we are on the same page. I needed to see if anyone else is as obsessed with the books as I am to come up with the same theory. I totally agree with your line of thought. ;D |
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Post by Rainow on Jul 25, 2010 15:34:53 GMT -5
I love the idea that Valerio is the Liege. That would make sense as to why he hasn't been revealed yet. If not, I hope he/she is revealed in Wait for Dusk to take care of the dysfunctional Coven.
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Post by dragondeathlord on Jul 26, 2010 18:09:16 GMT -5
Yes but Jocelynn Drake busted my guess but still nice to know some one else was making the same guess charislight.
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Post by charislight on Jul 26, 2010 18:49:26 GMT -5
Yes but Jocelynn Drake busted my guess but still nice to know some one else was making the same guess charislight. I guess we just let our overactive minds wander a bit there, huh, Dragondeathlord. ;D In any case, I can't wait to see The Liege come out of hiding and join the game. |
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Post by mrsj on Jul 27, 2010 9:04:52 GMT -5
so, will we know about the liege in book 6 or book 7?
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Post by Jocelynn Drake on Jul 28, 2010 7:01:47 GMT -5
I'm going to postpone answering that question as there are some things that are currently up in the air about the series. Once I know more solid information, I will pass it along. Sorry
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Post by mhub on Jan 13, 2011 19:43:09 GMT -5
Was a nice theory, pity JD had him almost die in the book 5. But I agree that The Leige has already made an appearance, wonder who it could be?  ...... |
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Post by Haven on Jan 23, 2011 21:41:01 GMT -5
I believe dragondeathlord's comments are before we found out that both Valerio and Stefan can teleport with someone. Jabari also did it several times with Mira. She said only ancients could do it.
It could still be Valerio, but I believe Jabari would at least have to know about it and neither Macaire or Jabari seem ruffled by him.
I'm wondering if the liege is Jabari, which would explain some of Macaire trying to kill Mira. Without Mira, Jabari wouldn't have anything to boost his power. Maybe Macaire feels he could then have a chance killing Jabari?
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